>> from 1985 as bain capital, it was a video presentation where governor romney then just mitt romney was talking about the goals of being bain capital to invest in start-up companies and then take and manage them and five to eight years and harvest them at a significant profit. obama campaign jumped over the word harvest, it's clear that he was only interested in making profits through bain capital and not interested in creating jobs. here is the response from the romney campaign, saying, quote, in addition to starting new businesses, mitt romney helped build bain capital by turning around broken companies and creating and saving thousands of jobs. we should point out this idea of harvesting is a common term in private equity and venture capital. it usually doesn't happen according to one manager until the company has grown significantly and a lot of jobs created. >> shep: john, that is going. we're less than a week from the first presidential debate. we'll be there in denver next wednesday. then watch bret baier and megyn kelly with prime time coverage. it starts just before 9:00 ea